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Postby supa dupa ninja » Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:44 pm

a comic book thats coming out in the philippines, this december.
the premise is cool, heres the website....http://www.mangocomics.com/twelve/index.htm
not exactly manga perse but still christian.
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Postby inkhana » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:01 pm

Hmm...the premise is neat...but that nun-looking girl needs to pull her pants up. Oh wait...that's as far as they go...O.o LOL

Sorry, that sort of thing just bugs me...
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:41 pm

RATING = PG-13 Refernces to
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Postby Technomancer » Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:01 am

That's um rather...unusual attire for a nun. Sister Jeanette would've had a fit.
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Postby supa dupa ninja » Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:03 am

yeah those low riders doesn't fit a nun, neh?
hope the creator changes her attire before it release.
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Postby Gypsy » Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:55 am

Yes, Sister Spears is making me a little skeptical. And from an artist's point of view (whether it was intentional or just the way the layout happened) I don't appreciate where the center focus of that pic is ...
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Postby true_noir_chloe » Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:09 am

I read through the site and I see it as two brothers who love the old-fashioned American comics. They are based in the Phillipines and this is just their style of art. I don't think it's Christian at all. They have Christian elements because of the culture in which they were raised in their country. Yet, they also have women who look like "Sister Spear" (crack up name, Gypsy) because they're trying to emulate the old Marvel and DC Comics.

I see no harm in it, but I certainly wouldn't label this Christian.

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Postby Fsiphskilm » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:53 pm

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Postby Psycho Ann » Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:53 pm

Ugh, I'm on the same line with everyone here with the sister's pants...

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Postby supa dupa ninja » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:01 pm

southernsun, they are christians.
just trying to ride the new age.
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Postby EdHead » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:28 pm

Okay, where does Jesus, a teacher/healer/master/savior that saved the world from sin, cross paths with Marvel/DC superhero wannabes? (besides that they're heroes)
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Postby supa dupa ninja » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:46 pm

I think, that their powers comes from faith not from their selves. they are there to glorify his name and do good deeds in the process.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:55 pm

There we go.
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Postby inkhana » Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:42 pm

[quote="Psycho Ann"]
We're *soldiers* of Christ here--even the girls! Not *swimsuit models* of Christ!! >_<]

Yup, those are my thoughts on the issue...it just seems to me that if they're supposed to be a good example of any kind, modesty ought to be an issue addressed. >_<;;; <----appropriate face...

Even if it's trendy and all doesn't necessarily make it Christian...


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Postby Fsiphskilm » Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:02 pm

WAIT! i GOT it!
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Postby Shinja » Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:05 pm

you know i think theres a point to how far you can" christianize" things, and i think this has past it..... some time back....ago
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Postby postbagboy » Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:39 pm

Ooookkkaaayyy... right. The story sounds kinda... lame/Marvel-ripoffish. Yar.
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Postby AyanamiRei » Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:21 pm

supa dupa ninja wrote:a comic book thats coming out in the philippines, this december.
the premise is cool, heres the website....http://www.mangocomics.com/twelve/index.htm
not exactly manga perse but still christian.


If anyone wants to check out a REALLY fantastic comic, then search for Archangels The Saga. It's got artwork that rivels even the best that Marvel and The X-Men can do! The plots are wonderous, and the action is simply drool worthy. Only problem is that they are slow in coming out with new issues. They never make their due dates, so it could be 3-6+ months before you see a new one, but other then that it's really good!!
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Postby Solid Ronin » Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:27 pm

AyanamiRei wrote:If anyone wants to check out a REALLY fantastic comic, then search for Archangels The Saga. It's got artwork that rivels even the best that Marvel and The X-Men can do! The plots are wonderous, and the action is simply drool worthy. Only problem is that they are slow in coming out with new issues. They never make their due dates, so it could be 3-6+ months before you see a new one, but other then that it's really good!!


yeah its a OK book It grew boring for me at least and been late is one thing but 6 months for one book......thats ridiculous do they want to do the comic or is it just a side thing to them
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Postby AyanamiRei » Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:43 pm

Duo 02 wrote:yeah its a OK book It grew boring for me at least and been late is one thing but 6 months for one book......thats ridiculous do they want to do the comic or is it just a side thing to them


Lol. No idea. I think they're understaffed and with graphics such as what they have.....well it don't come cheap or easy. If they stepped up production, they could have a lot bigger audience. It's truely sad to see what has become of the Christain culture for teens and young adults. They have plenty of good stuff for books, music, and some for videos. The problem is that they have neglected video games, which rivals even the movie industry if you look at recent figures, not to mention comics, cards, and now anime!! With manga and anime becoming such large entertainment figureheads, I don't see how they can afford to NOT to produce good entertainment in those areas. The entertainment industry has sent us a challenge, but we are going to start to fail if we don't get into gear. Duo drop me a line sometime at my free e-mail account: [email protected], or message me on AIM sometime: Tokui Kitty. Ciao!!
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Postby Solid Ronin » Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:56 pm

AyanamiRei wrote:Lol. No idea. I think they're understaffed and with graphics such as what they have.....well it don't come cheap or easy. If they stepped up production, they could have a lot bigger audience. It's truely sad to see what has become of the Christain culture for teens and young adults. They have plenty of good stuff for books, music, and some for videos. The problem is that they have neglected video games, which rivals even the movie industry if you look at recent figures, not to mention comics, cards, and now anime!! With manga and anime becoming such large entertainment figureheads, I don't see how they can afford to NOT to produce good entertainment in those areas. The entertainment industry has sent us a challenge, but we are going to start to fail if we don't get into gear. Duo drop me a line sometime at my free e-mail account: [email protected], or message me on AIM sometime: Tokui Kitty. Ciao!!


the problem is that they are "Christian" this is why I dont like Archangels that much Im a Christian but if I make a comic it would be based on Christain morals but by no means Christian do you understand what I mean??
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:29 pm

oh my...:( those characters are far to underdressed for my taste...(they should be for anyones taste in these forums...) It's rather sad if you ask me...
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Postby AyanamiRei » Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:05 pm

Duo 02 wrote:the problem is that they are "Christian" this is why I dont like Archangels that much Im a Christian but if I make a comic it would be based on Christain morals but by no means Christian do you understand what I mean??


Actually Duo I don't really understand what your saying, but don't group Archangels into the comic that's being talked about with the pic posted. Achangels is more spiritually oriented, much like Frank Peretti. *Pets* So dun't be groupin it with some comic group that don't really look all too Christain to me. So the only way I can think of is that your saying it would be truely Christain, and not merely a poor excuse for the secular market or Christain to produce a decent Christain comic. (An I'm not tryin to put the comic down too much, cuz I don't really know much, other then what I can see from what I presume to be a cover image, and not insultin anyone, much less Duo-chan here!!)
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Postby inkhana » Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:09 pm

If I'm not mistaken, what Duo means is that if he were to do a manga, it would have strong Christian tones without being sugarcoated and overdone. Begging your pardon if I'm wrong...:sweat:


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Postby Mave » Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:23 pm

I would like for more christian comics that deal with everyday life involving normal humans like you and I. After all, God works even in the most weak, poor, wretched human being in the world as long as he/she chooses to abide in Him.

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Postby true_noir_chloe » Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:04 am

>If I'm not mistaken, what Duo means is that if he were to do a manga, it would have strong Christian tones without being sugarcoated and overdone. Begging your pardon if I'm wrong...< Ink

>the problem is that they are "Christian" this is why I dont like Archangels that much Im a Christian but if I make a comic it would be based on Christain morals but by no means Christian do you understand what I mean??< Duo

I'm in agreement with Duo and Ink. Comics is such a great field to reach the masses, why only make Christian mangas for Christians to read? Before I became a Christian at age 16, I would never have read some of the stuff that they sell at FCB or Lifeway. It's just Christians making money off Christians sometimes. :shake: Sorry, I know I stepped on someones toes. This is IMHO, however.

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You cast your light upon the shadows

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You ease the pain when I am hurting,

and morbid visions from my past

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as though I danced on blades of glass.

You grant me strength when I have fallen

and, once again, I've lost my way.

You take my hand in Yours and lead me

into the promise of a brand new day.

You bring order to all my chaos,

yet set my well-laid plans awry.

You place me on a firm foundation ---

then give me wings so I can fly.

You sand away my roughened edges

and polish all the dullest parts

until I stand before Your presence...

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You see into the heart within me,

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And yet, in spite of all You see

You say You love me even still.


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Postby Technomancer » Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:12 pm

It would be interesting to see it done. There are certainly films and novels that are essentially Christian in character but are oriented to a broader audience. As far as comics go, the ones that are explicitly Christian are, to be quite blunt, pretty awful. Narrative depth is usually sacrificed in the name of didactics.

A few artists do it right however, usually as part of a particular character's personality. Joyce in IW!, or Rikk in Fans! for example; you could probably also include Nightcrawler as well although I'm less familiar with him. Of course, it may also depend on your particular religious and literary sensibilities, and I suspect that mine are probably quite a bit different from most people's here anyways.
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Postby Fsiphskilm » Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:14 pm

well it really IS a hard
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Postby JediSonic » Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:30 pm

AyanamiRei wrote:Lol. No idea. I think they're understaffed and with graphics such as what they have.....well it don't come cheap or easy. If they stepped up production, they could have a lot bigger audience. It's truely sad to see what has become of the Christain culture for teens and young adults. They have plenty of good stuff for books, music, and some for videos. The problem is that they have neglected video games, which rivals even the movie industry if you look at recent figures, not to mention comics, cards, and now anime!! With manga and anime becoming such large entertainment figureheads, I don't see how they can afford to NOT to produce good entertainment in those areas. The entertainment industry has sent us a challenge, but we are going to start to fail if we don't get into gear. Duo drop me a line sometime at my free e-mail account: [email protected], or message me on AIM sometime: Tokui Kitty. Ciao!!


I guess that's what we're here for :P
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Postby postbagboy » Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:00 pm

SouthernSun wrote:None christians trying to explain Christianity? I've seen this so many times before... it never turns out good.(coffcoff-Bruce ALmightly-coff)


Uh, you do realise the movie was made by a Christian, correct?
http://christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/2003/brucealmighty-interview.html
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