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Postby Aka-chan » Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:59 pm

I think so. JKR made a pretty big deal about all through OotP, so it’s gotta be pretty significant.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:11 pm

I bet Harry's gonna scare me. But I hope not. I like him too much to be frightened by him.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:32 pm

Hmm... I still haven't seen the movie version of "Prisoner of Azkaban" but I do remember that Rowling said one of the director's inventions was actually an astute observation and revealed a secret in one of the last two books... What do you think that could be? Anyone who's seen the movie think they know what it may be?

Among the many other things I need to do, I should read OotP again...
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Postby ZiP » Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:31 pm

I have no clue. Could you expand upon what you mean?
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Postby Mangafanatic » Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:34 pm

I think what Bob means is that Rowling once said that Prisoner of Azkaban has some statement or image that wouldn't be revealed until book 6 or7. Bob is asking if anyone has any ideas what in the movie might be the big clue. Or atleast, I think that's what he's talking about.
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby perelandra » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:09 pm

This is slightly off-topic, but I really have to intervene. Apologies if anyone already has.
Snape is surely not a bad man. I base this on the following: from what you learn of his past he was set up to be evil, as in generally abused and rejected by his peers etc. In spite of this he chose to fight for the good side, as great risk to himself. Bad manners do not outway this, nor does a pesonal dislike of Potter, which is quite understandable (I mean, look at his predatory behaviour towards chan after the horrible death of her boyfreind).
Morality aside, he has a great deal of style.
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Postby Scribs » Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:22 pm

Snape aint too bad. He seems like a rather slimey character but I think he may have a positive role in the final outcome of the series (possibly giving up his life to save harry's. think of it! it would get him even with James Potter for saving his life.) Snape is definitly one who we ought not to forget!
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Postby Mangafanatic » Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:30 pm

I really don't hate Snape. Well, I do hate him a little in OotP for not teaching Harry occulmency, but it was just a tiny tiny little bit of dislike. I understand why he did it, but, for the sake of the greater good, you'd think he could have put the past behind him.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Scribs » Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:35 pm

Sometimes the past is just too hard to put behind you! His actions were more reasonable than harry's at that point. But I see what you mean. I actually think Rowling wants us to hate snape by the way she writes him, and allot of the time I find myself disliking him alot. If you look at his circumstances he really isn't as bad as he could be.
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Postby perelandra » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:03 am

mind you... good point about the getting even with Potter senior. It occurs to me that a person cannot very easily be a Christian if they are not willing to be in anothers debt, as that is in a way the whole point. But still, Rowling almost certainly didn't intend this as any kind of religious allegory after the fashion of C.S. Lewis, so it would porbably be anachronistic to expect Snape to express his goodness in that way.
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Postby Rocketshipper » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:15 am

I'll stick uo for Snape. He's my favorite character!! I really liked OotP because it showed a little of his past. I hope he plays a larger role in the next two books.

I don't really have any theories on who the HBP is or anything, but I do think Ron and Hermione should get together! And I hope Draco plays a larger role in the next books as well, so far his character seems pretty one dimentional and pointless.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:55 am

Rocketshipper wrote:
I don't really have any theories on who the HBP is or anything, but I do think Ron and Hermione should get together! And I hope Draco plays a larger role in the next books as well, so far his character seems pretty one dimentional and pointless.


Draco's character has quite a clear point. To be annoying and harrassing. It maybe a boring and stagnant point, but a point none the less. ;)
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby madphilb » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:55 pm

I have just one word for anyone who dislikes Snape and has read the 5th book:

Umbrige

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Postby Mangafanatic » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:00 pm

Or you could just dislike them both, which is my current feeling on the matter.

It's not that I don't think Snape's had it rough. He has. But, being a Christian, I know that we can choose how we react to our curcuimstances. Snape chose to be bitter and Harsh rather than forgiving. That was his decision, and that's why I don't like him.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Scribs » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:58 pm

I tend to like snape more than umbridge. If there is one thing worse than a cruel teacher, it is a power hungry cruel teacher. At least Snape teaches them something. Umbridge was truely evil.
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Postby Aka-chan » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:00 pm

Snape's all right. I have a friend who's a big fan of him. I like how his character is rather ambiguous, though; while Dumbledore believes Snape has gone good completely, it's still difficult if not impossible to say for sure which side he's one. That whole double agent role makes him quite interesting.

I, too, would like to see more Draco. I'm rather fond of him. ^__^
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Postby Rocketshipper » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:20 pm

I think the fact that Dumbledore trusts Snape is enough evidence to show that Snape is good. Dumbledore seems to always be portrayed as one of, if not the, wisest characters in the series. I really hope that the next books tell us, in detail, how Snape initially joined Voldemort and why he turned good in the end.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:24 pm

Rocketshipper wrote:I think the fact that Dumbledore trusts Snape is enough evidence to show that Snape is good. Dumbledore seems to always be portrayed as one of, if not the, wisest characters in the series. I really hope that the next books tell us, in detail, how Snape initially joined Voldemort and why he turned good in the end.



He is probably one of hte wisest characters in the book, but that doesn't mean Dumbledore doesn't make mistakes (as he admits himself in OotP). I don't think Snape's with Voldemort, but I still don't like him.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Scribs » Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:21 pm

I would be greatly suprised if it turned out that snape was on voldermorts side. Dumbledore may make mistakes, but on most important issues he seems to have the right Ideas.
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Postby Rachel » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:21 pm

Please don't jump me for this, but I don't really want Ron and Hermione to get together. I think it would be more interesting if she hooked up with Harry. And also, do we know for sure that the HBP is a bad guy? Anyways, that's all I've got for now. I'll probably say some more later.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:59 pm

Rachel wrote:Please don't jump me for this, but I don't really want Ron and Hermione to get together. I think it would be more interesting if she hooked up with Harry. And also, do we know for sure that the HBP is a bad guy? Anyways, that's all I've got for now. I'll probably say some more later.


Yes, a fellow Harry-Hermione fan. Maybe they'll kill of Ron and she'll get together with Harry. That would be half a win for me.

No you're right, the Half-blood Prince might not be a bad guy. The Prisoner of Azkaban wasn't.
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Scribs » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:14 pm

Hermione-Harry? Hermione-Ron? why not Hermione-Krum, I mean poor Victor, why should he get shafted. or... Maybe Hermione will just get killed off, so she will hook up with noone at all. that is certainly a possibility.

Hbp could be a bad guy that everyone thinks is a good goy (or vice versa)
whoever it is I bet it will be a surprise.

I hope that Luna gets killed off. She really bugs me. (sorry if that is a bit random\bloodthirsty)

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Postby Rachel » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:59 pm

They can't kill off Ron, he's so cute. Sigh. Anyways. Rats I forgot what I was going to say. I will post it when I remember
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Postby ZiP » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:59 pm

Oh yeah, here's another thing I found out via JKR's site:

[SPOILER=who's gonna go out with who]Neville and Luna won't get together via Ms. Rowing's site[/SPOILER]
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Postby Mangafanatic » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:12 pm

piloswine wrote:Hermione-Harry? Hermione-Ron? why not Hermione-Krum, I mean poor Victor, why should he get shafted. or... Maybe Hermione will just get killed off, so she will hook up with noone at all. that is certainly a possibility.

Hbp could be a bad guy that everyone thinks is a good goy (or vice versa)
whoever it is I bet it will be a surprise.

I hope that Luna gets killed off. She really bugs me. (sorry if that is a bit random\bloodthirsty)

I love this thread :grin:



Honestly, I would rather have Hermione dead than with Krum.

Okay. That was a little bit of a lie. I will cry, cry, cry if they kill Hermione, but she and Krum simply cannot get together. I mean, she was fourteen when they met and he was eighteen. That's. just. wrong. SO, needless to say, I'm not a Krum-Hermione fan. ;)

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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Aka-chan » Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:08 pm

I know this is probably stretching it quite a bit, but does the HBP really have to be male? I know "prince" generally equals "male", but in some cases, females have taken on male titles because it comes with more power. Like, in ancient Egypt, Hatshepsut seized the title of pharaoh in order to rule the land, despite that it was supposed to be a male-only position, or in the anime/manga Shaman King, the Shaman King can be male or female, but the title remains the same regardless (as far as is indicated in the series.)
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Postby Mangafanatic » Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:21 pm

Aka-chan wrote:I know this is probably stretching it quite a bit, but does the HBP really have to be male? I know "prince" generally equals "male", but in some cases, females have taken on male titles because it comes with more power. Like, in ancient Egypt, Hatshepsut seized the title of pharaoh in order to rule the land, despite that it was supposed to be a male-only position, or in the anime/manga Shaman King, the Shaman King can be male or female, but the title remains the same regardless (as far as is indicated in the series.)


A--are you suggesting that CROOKSHANKS Is THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE!!!???

J/k. Hadn't really thought about that. It is true that it might be a girl. My money's still on it being a guy (Krum more particularly), but that is a possibility I hadn't really thought through. Nice thinking there, Aka-chan. (It is sad that I can have no pet name for you, because your user name is already a pet name. *sigh* Oh well.)
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Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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Postby Aka-chan » Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:54 pm

XD Actually, Crookshanks being the hbp is my favorite theory by far. But isn't Crookshanks male to begin with?

I'm assuming it's a guy as well; I just wanted another crazy theory to throw out. ^__^

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Postby Rachel » Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:50 pm

Dude! What if the HBP turned out to be Ron's rat? Or Harry's owl? Or Professor McGonagall?
I too would shed many a tear if Rowling killed off Hermione. I would shed many more tears if she winds up getting together with Ron. She has to hook up with Harry or I will be severely depressed. I might even be depressed to the point of burning down all the bookstores in town...j/k. But seriously though, if Hermione doesn't get together with Harry, I will be extremely angry.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:01 am

Rachel wrote:Dude! What if the HBP turned out to be Ron's rat? Or Harry's owl? Or Professor McGonagall?


Since Ron no longer has a rat, I'm thinking it's probably not him. Afterall, we know he's just a wimpy turn-tail. But I don't think Rowling will give Wormtail the honor of being a title character.

I too would shed many a tear if Rowling killed off Hermione. I would shed many more tears if she winds up getting together with Ron. She has to hook up with Harry or I will be severely depressed. I might even be depressed to the point of burning down all the bookstores in town...j/k. But seriously though, if Hermione doesn't get together with Harry, I will be extremely angry.
And yes, I love this thread too. *hugs thread*


I won't be crushed if it's Ron she gets together with. I will be far more happy if it's Harry, but I will be thoroughly depressed if she gets together with Krum. Please, Rowling, not him! Anyone but him!
Every year in Uganda, innumerable children simply. . . disappear. These children all stolen under the cover of darkness from their homes and impressed into the guerilla armies of the LRA [Lord's Resistance Army]. In the deserts of Uganda, they are forced to witness the mindless slaughter of other children until they themselves can do nothing but kill. Kill. These children, generally ranging from ages 5-12, are brainwashed into murdering in the name of the resistance and into stealing other children from their beds to suffer the same fate.

Because of this genocide of innocence, hundred and hundreds of children live every night sleeping in public places miles from their homes, because they know that if the do not-- they will disappear. They will become just another number in this genocide to which the international community has chosen to turn a blind eye. They will become, in affect, invisible-- Invisible Children.

But there are those who are trying to fight against this slaughter of Uganda's children. They fight to protect these "invisible children." Please, help them help a country full of children who know nothing by fear. Help save the innocence. For more information concerning how you can help and how you can get an incredible video about this horrific reality, visit the Invisible Children home page.
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