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Postby whisperingloon » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:06 pm

Radical Dreamer (post: 1207399) wrote:[SPOILER]The scene where Sun visited Jin's grave was incredibly sad. I was amazed that there was both a flash-forward AND a flash-back in the same episode. That was an amazing way of making you think that Jin was still alive. Man.
[/SPOILER]



So the question is . . .

[SPOILER]HOW did Jin die?
[/SPOILER]

Tomorrow's episode . . . the mole!

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Postby Radical Dreamer » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:23 pm

whisperingloon (post: 1208707) wrote:So the question is . . .

[SPOILER]HOW did Jin die?
[/SPOILER]


I actually have unsubstantiated yet somewhat plausible theories on that. XD

[SPOILER]It very well may be the case that Jin ISN'T dead, but is still stuck on the Island with the rest of the Losties. Upon further examination, his tombstone dates "Sept. 22, 2004" as the date of his death. Since that's the date the plane crashed, it's possible that Jin's death is part of the "Oceanic Six" story, and he's really still alive on the Island.

Problems arise there, too, though, when you look into the wormhole theory for the show. This theory states that the Island is connected to the "real world" by a wormhole, and since wormholes can only be kept open by constant bursts of electromagnetic activity, this explains the reason why the Button had to be pushed every 108 minutes. Supposedly, the Failsafe Key that Desmond used at the end of Season 2 released a substantially larger burst of electromagnetic activity to the wormhole so that it would stay open for a prolonged period of time, but once that time is up and it closes, it's possible that the Island is gone for good, along with everyone on it. This explains the urgent need to "get back" to the Island expressed by Jack at the end of Season 3, Charlie in the first episode, Michael Abaddon (the tall, black man), etc. Knowing this, Sun may be mourning what could become the true death of her husband, rather than his death as told by Oceanic.[/SPOILER]

Information in the above spoiler from this article. There are spoilers in the article, so unless you're up to date on the show, read with care. XD
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Postby whisperingloon » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:09 pm

I can't decide if tonight's episode was satisfying or not.

Lots of stuff we already. But the stuff we didn't know was . . . interesting. It was interesting . . . but not much more.

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Postby rocklobster » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:57 am

[spoiler]So we can trust Ben now? Yikes! I don't think I like that idea. He's almost as bad as the devil himself as far as I'm concerned. [/spoiler]
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Postby whisperingloon » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:42 am

rocklobster (post: 1209029) wrote:[spoiler]So we can trust Ben now? Yikes! I don't think I like that idea. He's almost as bad as the devil himself as far as I'm concerned. [/spoiler]


Trust? No way!

HE truly believes he's "one of the good guys". Which is the mark of a good villain. But his actions show something completely different.

He tells lies to make you trust him and then gets you to do what he wants.

He's turned into a great villain.

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Postby Radical Dreamer » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:09 am

whisperingloon (post: 1209041) wrote:Trust? No way!

HE truly believes he's "one of the good guys". Which is the mark of a good villain. But his actions show something completely different.

He tells lies to make you trust him and then gets you to do what he wants.

He's turned into a great villain.

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[SPOILER]Absolutely true. I don't trust anything that Ben says, at least, not to a full extent, and I believe that it was Ben's full intention to have Carl and Rousseau killed off last night, in order to separate them from Alex. I also think that, while Ben claims he is not a murderer himself, that is, he doesn't kill anyone who may be innocent, he DOES manipulate others to simply do the work for him, and indirectly has them killed. Goodwin, Ana Lucia, and Rousseau and Carl are all prime examples of this.

I thought last night's episode was fantastic. The bit about Michael not being able to kill himself because the Island wouldn't let him was pretty insane. XD Naturally, the episode felt a little sped up, as the writers had to crunch some things to get everything in, but I was glad we got all of the answers as to why Michael was working for Ben. Also, Sayid FTW.[/SPOILER]

More thoughts later, maybe, when I have more time. XD
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Postby whisperingloon » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:43 pm

[SPOILER]Yeah. Everything that has happened has happened according to Ben's plan, I think. He's a very frustrating character for me. But everything that has happened, whether it's been part of his plan or not, he's been able to spin into something that's in his favor. And with that Sayid "flash forward" . . . it looks like things are getting worse, not better.

Well, better for BEN . . .[/SPOILER]

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Postby rocklobster » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:01 pm

Just wanted to remind you people: Lost starts up again this Thursday.
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Postby Sheenar » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:04 pm

It's sad to admit, but I just watched the 1st 4 episodes of the 1st season last night --I've seen a few episodes further on, but hadn't started at the beginning --I must say that so far I've learned that every detail is important to remember--I'm just wondering how many more times I have to see the plane crash...
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:02 pm

Sheenar (post: 1219141) wrote:It's sad to admit, but I just watched the 1st 4 episodes of the 1st season last night --I've seen a few episodes further on, but hadn't started at the beginning --I must say that so far I've learned that every detail is important to remember--I'm just wondering how many more times I have to see the plane crash...


Oh, please keep watching! XD If there's one thing about Lost that's kept me watching, it IS all of the little details and the attention to those details and characters that keeps the show so fascinating. If you stick with it until this current season four and try not to get any spoilers, you won't be disappointed!

My family and I have had this Thursday marked on the calendar since the last new episode they aired. XD We're definitely looking forward to the rest of this season. XD
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:13 pm

HOLY.

CRAP.

[SPOILER]This show NEVER ceases to amaze me. MY GOSH. THEY KILLED ALEX. AND THEY KILLED NADIA. AAHH.

Ben is seriously the most complex character ever. In the span of an episode, I went from thinking, "wow, he's kind of cool" to "AGH I HATE HIM" to feeling sorry for him when his plan backfired and Alex was shot, to hating him again once he planned to kill Penny. And when did he become this Jason Bourne-esque assassin? XD Regardless, HOLY CRAP. Season four has been nothing short of epic. I love this show. XD[/SPOILER]
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Postby rocklobster » Sat May 10, 2008 2:55 pm

and another HOLY CRAP
[spoiler] Jacob actually existed![/spoiler]
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sat May 10, 2008 3:54 pm

rocklobster (post: 1224946) wrote:and another HOLY CRAP
[spoiler] Jacob actually existed![/spoiler]


[SPOILER]Of course Jacob exists. That's not what blew my mind in this past episode. Christian Shepherd, Richard and Abaddon showing up in Locke's life prior to his experiences on the Island, further exploration of the time differences between the Island and the world outside, etc. were all excellent parts of the episode (though I think my favorite scene might have been Ben and Hurley sharing a Snickers bar XD). I actually have my suspicions that Richard and Abaddon ARE Jacob, as I believe Jacob can shapeshift. I can't quite figure out why Richard was disappointed with John's choice in the knife in the child testing he tried on him, but that's all the more reason I'm stuck watching this incredible show. XD I've been so impressed with season 4]
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Thu May 29, 2008 3:33 pm

Just a quick heads up for fans that still check this thread:

The Lost season 4 finale is tonight! 8DD It starts at 8PM with an encore of last week's episode (with new footage, so I hear), and the new 2-hour episode starts at 9. Can't wait! 8D
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Postby Monkey J. Luffy » Thu May 29, 2008 4:20 pm

So, who do you think is gonna die tonight?
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Postby Tommy » Thu May 29, 2008 5:56 pm

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Postby Radical Dreamer » Thu May 29, 2008 8:11 pm

GHJDKLGHJLSDGJDLKSGJLKSDJSDKGJDSGLJ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.


[SPOILER]LOCKE WAS IN THE COFFIN?? HOLY CRAP. I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS EVEN AN OPTION. THIS WAS THE BEST SEASON FINALE EVER. XDD

Highlights:

Sayid/Richard vs. Keamy.
Ben. Lots and lots of Ben, that sociopathic freak.
Jin's death.
Desmond and Penny reunited HOLY CRAP I DID NOT SEE THAT COMING BUT I NEARLY DIED WHEN IT HAPPENED. XD
LOCKE IN THE COFFIN. ZOMG.

I have theories regarding some of this. I just can't think straight right now because my mind just EXPLODED.[/SPOILER]

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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:28 pm

YAAAAYY GRAVEDIG.

Lost season 5 officially premieres Wednesday, January 21st at 8! There are a few new trailers and teasers out for it, and it has me 110% STOKED. Check it out here:

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=inde

Warning: Plenty of spoilers. XD If you haven't seen all of season 4, don't watch. XD

That being said, I snagged this screencap from the trailer. I wonder what it means?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y185/RurouniKaoru/Picture4-7.png

Man I'm so excited! XDD Discuss!
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:43 pm

I cannot wait a moment longer. That was awesome!
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:20 pm

YAAAAAY GRAVEDIG. #2.

So!! Lost Season 5 started today, for most of us! And I wanna know what everyone thought! My thoughts in a (very) short summary:

[Spoiler]The woman with white hair from season three and from the end of the episode is totally Faraday's mom. At least, I think it is. XD I think she's measuring where the island goes in time.

Also, this is actually my roommate's theory, but it's really good so I'll post it here too. We think the Oceanic 6 are like the Island's constant, since it's sporadically moving through time. They have to go back to the Island because it needs them on it to keep itself from "dying" (like Minkowski did and like Desmond would've, had it not been for Penny). I think it's a pretty solid theory![/Spoiler]

Anyways! Thoughts?
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Postby Tommy » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:37 pm

I think I now understand why Richard never seems to age....ever.

I wonder if they'll be an episode dedicated to why he uses eye liner a la the episode that explained Jake's tatoos.

Anyways, Season 5 is amazing so far.
One of my friends used to love Lost, but stopped midway through Season 3.

Here's a funny conversation excerpt:

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Dave- No way, dude. I was sick of getting strung along.
Me- No really. An insane plot twist just occurred. You gotta watch it!
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OMG!
It's not an island....
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:08 pm

Dude seriously! I feel bad for people who stopped in season 1 or 3, 'cause once the middle of season 3 hit, Lost started getting even more amazing than usual. 'Course, that makes sense, since it was right around the middle of season 3 that they put a cap on Lost and said they'd stop officially at season 6. So for the next two seasons, we're going to be getting a LOT of questions answered. XD It's gonna be awesome. XD
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Postby rocklobster » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:42 am

[spoiler]Did anyone else notice the time the alarm clock at the beginning turned on? It was 8:15 A.M.!
Also, I don't know about you, but if I were Hurley's mom, I wouldn't have believed him[/spoiler]
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Postby Tommy » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:28 pm

rocklobster (post: 1284191) wrote:[spoiler]Did anyone else notice the time the alarm clock at the beginning turned on? It was 8:15 A.M.!
Also, I don't know about you, but if I were Hurley's mom, I wouldn't have believed him[/spoiler]


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Postby rocklobster » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:03 am

[spoiler] Back to the 50's? What's next a Delorean?[/spoiler]
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Postby KagayakiWashi » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:43 pm

This thread has more censorship than a UFO document from the government!
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Postby rocklobster » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:03 pm

We have to censor it for people who haven't seen the latest ep.
Anyway, on to current topic:
[spoiler] Ben wants Aaron? Interesting![/spoiler]
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:59 pm

rocklobster (post: 1287142) wrote:We have to censor it for people who haven't seen the latest ep.
Anyway, on to current topic:
[spoiler] Ben wants Aaron? Interesting![/spoiler]



[SPOILER]I actually think all of that was a ploy to try to get Kate to run and take Aaron back to the Island. It makes sense, knowing how manipulative he is, that he would try something like that.[/SPOILER]
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Postby Esoteric » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:23 pm

Radical Dreamer (post: 1287213) wrote:[SPOILER]I actually think all of that was a ploy to try to get Kate to run and take Aaron back to the Island. It makes sense, knowing how manipulative he is, that he would try something like that.[/SPOILER]

Yes.
[spoiler]
So, who thinks Sun is gonna fill Ben fulla lead? Of course, if they kill off Ben now, the dramatic threat to Penny is removed.[/spoiler]
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Postby Song_of_Storms » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:00 pm

I think I now understand why Richard never seems to age....ever.

I wonder if they'll be an episode dedicated to why he uses eye liner a la the episode that explained Jake's tattoos


[size="1"]I see I'm not the only one to notice. X3 Richard has been called Mr. Eyeliner since we first saw him.

I, personally, like Ben's character. I think he added an edge that was missing... although it kinda seems at times everyone's trusting him to easily. [/size]
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