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Postby Michael » Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:16 pm

Honestly, If you hadn't banned him, I probably would've considered leaving.

But it didn't get that far. I support your decisions and actions. And I believe that he was only asking for trouble.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:35 am

You know, this thread is getting a wee bit repetative. I have no particular problem with anything that has been said here, and I agree that it has been on a mature level, but honestly, how much do we have to say?

I've been saying nothing, because I have nothing to say, but I feel I must step in now. And now I'm going to get rid of the e-mail subscription to this thread, which has been spamming my inbox.
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Postby EireWolf » Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:37 pm

*sigh*

it has been on a mature level


It was, up to a point.

Howzabout we try thinking before we post, or even praying before we post, especially if we are feeling angry or offended? Administrators, moderators, and members alike.

For the record, Ashley, I think you have handled this situation rather well.
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Postby Stephen » Sat Sep 06, 2003 7:47 pm

Ok...to keep the site up to events...this evening when i got in from work I got a few PM's from some members on CAA...about some posts and threads. SSJ5Gogeta and Agnoisticman have both been banned. SSJ5 wanted to make CAA a billboard for his religion of scientology....Agnoistic man was vulgar and lashed at members trying to be open and loving with him. Full reviews will be done by the Mods and Admins later tonight...for now I just wanted to clear a few things up. Thanks for being used by the Lord and word and deed. (In talking with people that so clearly hate you and what you stand for)
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Postby Ashley » Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:50 pm

Alright guys, we've had a lot of issues tonight. 2 members banned, among other things.

First off, Agnosticman. As Steve mentioned, from what I read this guy was vulgar, rude, and hostile to other members. From the posts I read, he seemed only here to aggrivate us and to stir up controversy. Similiar to the other non-Christian members banned this week, he did not come here with an attitude of mutual respect, but one of hostility, arrogance, and antagonism. There is no need for any of that on these boards.

I will say this...on the thread he mainly posted in--the "What does God need with a starship"--I saw many people (will not name names) being borderline rude to this guy. Guys, I know it's tempting, but when you reply hostily to people like that, you're doing more harm than good. First off, you're giving them a reason to hate Christians, and two, you're only fueling the fire and fulfilling what they set out to do: create dissension and chaos. On the flip side, if we're continually respectful towards them, they will lose their fuel and fail in their purpose. The best thing to do in a situation like that is tell a mod or admin and let us handle it.

Now, the other member banned tonight was SSJ5Gogeta. He joined this site merely to promote his own "religion" Scientology and use CAA as a billboard for it. That is not at all tolerated, and considered spam in it's worst form.

I know this will come up again, so let me answer the question I know is coming "So why are all these non-Christians being banned? Does CAA not allow non-Christians to join?"

The answer:
they were NOT I repeat NOT banned for being non-Christian. I would welcome non-christians who truly are open to Christian theology. But people like Yaoi, Kyou, Agnosticman, and Gotenks were NOT seeking Christ at all, nor were they mildly interested in Christianity in the least. If anything, they flaunted the fact they were non-christians. I do believe evangelism is indeed important, but I will not allow this community to compromise its standards and hide under the term "outreach". It is quite possible to be Christians and not permit everything. And if no one else in the Christian community believes that, we will teach them to and be an example.

Besides, you're forgetting what effect this would have on younger, less strong brethren. We've already had one member say that if YS had not had been banned, he would have left. Think of what we're saying if we let openly, nay in some cases anti-christians join the site and just be all hunky dory with it?

I don't know how much clearer I can make this. Yes, we are a Christian organization, and inherent in that is the responsiblity to evangelize. But I will not allow us to tolerate anyone and everyone saying and promoting anything and everything. Understand? Again, the fact these people were non-christian was only secondary to their first offense: openly supporting things this community is very clearly against. If a buddhist joins up and says, "hey, I'm a buddhist, but I want to hear what you guys have to say" or something like that, I'll be fine with it. It's all a matter of the heart.


Finally, and I know this is getting extremely long, we will be amending the creed on the front page shortly, as to make it clear what I just said. And the rules, to where no more dirty links are to be reported.

My deepest love and gratitude goes out to all the mods and admins tonight, especially Steve, who had to deal with all of this while I was at work today. What excellent helpmates God has provided me with.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:24 pm

I've banned Satsuki, because he was spamming, flaming, and posting inappropriate material that most of you would be VERY offended by.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:35 pm

User Lt. Dangle banned. Posted gay porn pic.

I'm getting sick of this. Where's the admins when I need them...
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Postby Link Antilles » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:45 pm

Well, this has been an interesting night and I’m praying that it comes to a rest. This site is fortunate to have a Night Owl Mod. I thank the Admins and Mods for staying firm to the rules of this forum, stopping things from getting out of hand, and their dedication to this site.
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Postby Razgriz » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:52 pm

Yeah, I agree, kudos to the mods, they've done a marvelous job, and God bless them.
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Postby MillyFan » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:53 pm

Yeah, there are too many trolls here tonight. It's like some kind of horror movie or something: "Invasion of the Trolls."

Anyway, congrats to the mods (especially ShiroiHikaru for staying up so late to handle this) and here's some things to help out :grin:
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Hey, whatever happened to "thou shalt not steal" anyway?

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Postby Psycho Ann » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:55 pm

Wow, my full support is with the staff. It's more than refreshing to see upholding of rules and regulations like it should be upheld. We're not being biased but rules are rules and I can't tell you what a breath of fresh air it is.

It's like the rare cases of "undiluted" churches who say what God intended us to say and not just diluting His words to get more "followers".

Great job, my prayers for you all.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:13 am

^^; Um, thanks St. Peter. Heh...

I have a theory. Perhaps these boards were linked to from another board, and that's where everyone is coming from.

Either way...I'm taking the hits as they come until an admin shows up :]
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Postby Rashiir » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:38 am

Aye. I believe this may have been a coordinated attack of some sort.
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Postby MillyFan » Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:46 am

As do I. :mutter: :forehead: :bang: :comp:
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Postby Straylight » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:24 am

I'm not so sure. We've had a LOAD of hits recently because a thread on this board came up as number 2 for the search term "igpx" on Google. That equates to a lot of anime fans visiting this site, many of whom would be non-christians. It's either that or a coordinated attack.

We can expect a lot of new members anyway.
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Postby Technomancer » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:33 am

kudos to the admins for keeping on top of the situation last night.
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Postby Spiritsword » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:00 am

Yes, thank you to all the admins, and especially to God, who I know was guiding them through this adversity. CAA is such a safe, welcoming community and you all keep it that way, especially You. :)
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Postby Shinja » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:19 am

yeah last night was unbellieveable, but in the end im not suprised ive run across several forums that have bashed the CAA i guess it was only a matter of time before it started on our own. thanx to the mods and admins yall did good :thumb:
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Postby shooraijin » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:55 am

Well done, mods :) thanks for being vigilant.
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Postby LorentzForce » Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:02 am

let's just not attack back. it'll make us equal to them.

well, good work from the mods and admins :) the site didn't crash. which is all good.
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Postby majanthehun » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:05 pm

wonderful job, admins... you guys are doing great and im sure God has been working through all of you.

just a suggestion, but is it possible to get some type of schedule set up so that there will always be an admin/moderator on the boards at all times? that is how ive seen it at other chat rooms etc... it might be something to look into . we definetly have enough people here to have all time zones covered. i know we don't want to randomly appoint admins/ mods but there has to be some way to get someone on here at all times.

it might help keep the trolling levels down. just a suggestion, though.... you guys seem to be handling it well, even without having everyone on at the same time.

just wanted to say something.... this site has been an awsome blessing for me and i'm glad God has put all of you in charge... He couldn't have chosen better people.
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Postby EireWolf » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:19 pm

Are we sure Shadrack was a troll? Did he send some nasty PMs or something? Because, although he wasn't a Christian, and he was dragging out a line of questioning, I didn't see any of his posts as overly antagonistic. He might even be on the verge of seeking Christ.

Just curious as to the reason for his banning...
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Postby Ashley » Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:01 pm

Yes, he was definate. We found him on the troll board...sad, but true.
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Postby Stephen » Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:41 pm

I want to thank St. Peter for helping me while I was alone in that fight early on...his PM's helped me find what posts where nasty and such. Thanks a lot man.
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Postby Ashley » Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:57 pm

Newest on the banishment list: Troll.
Oh please, do they think we're idiots?
At least we didn't give him a single post to his belt.
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Postby Link Antilles » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:00 pm

Troll? Ok, that's just sad. :shake:
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Postby Ashley » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:08 pm

We're working on stopping referrals from that site, and Noz has reported them to the police I believe. So it should be over soon, guys. Hang in there. And plus, if we give up and shut down for a while, guess what? They've succeeded in overwhelming us. And that will never happen.
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Postby Link Antilles » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:15 pm

Ashley wrote:We're working on stopping referrals from that site, and Noz has reported them to the police I believe. So it should be over soon, guys. Hang in there. And plus, if we give up and shut down for a while, guess what? They've succeeded in overwhelming us. And that will never happen.


Right on, Ash! Never give up! If we temporary stop registration, that would prevent other Christians from signing on.
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Postby Ashley » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:35 pm

Yet another banned one, 'nother confirmed troll (Yebe). I think this makes about 5-6 in the past 48 hours.
Vulgarity, and anyone who posts on/starts 1 thread and controversially, well I think it's pretty obvious what they're doing onboard.
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Postby Saint » Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:15 pm

I want to thank all leadership of the site. you handle the problems very well. All these recent events have tried MY patience and i don't even have to deal with it. :) Thanks again.
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