Babylon 5 creator to reboot Superman

[Roy Mustang]

Babylon 5 creator to reboot Superman


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[Etoh*the*Greato]

This is a good thing. I approve.

His boots were pretty awful in the last movie.

[ShiroiHikari]

Article says they're gonna do this with Batman too. I guess I don't really understand the point other than selling more comic books.

Also since it's not clear from the title of the thread, this article is about comics, not movies. So no; no new Superman film. (Yet. I kinda wish they would make a new one because Superman Returns suuucked.)

[Blitzkrieg1701]

Yeah, that's what I though at first, too.

And, really, that would probably serve more of a purpose, too. Not to say that this can't be good or anything, but hasn't Superman's origins already been revisited plenty of times?

[rocklobster]

Yeah, why do they need to do this? I mean, what's wrong with the guy? I always enjoyed Superman and Batman. They don't need to do it over.

[Cognitive Gear]

I suppose that I will be the first to say that I think this could be a very good thing. The Spider-man reboot (Ultimate Spider-man) was one of the best comic experiences I had this decade.

New Batman and Superman continuity without 60+ years of deaths, rebirths, and not-quite apocalypses? Sounds good to me.

[Roy Mustang]

If you want new fans to comic books this can be the best way. People that are new to comics are not going to sit and read a comic that may not understand as the storyline that had a back story sometime in the past.

As Cognitive Gear said is the point of what they want or want to try to do.

Look at the The Spider-man reboot (Ultimate Spider-man) and it really brought in more fans in the last few years that wouldn't have got into Spider-man, because all of the back stories they would have keep up with by going back and reading older comics of Spider-man.


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[ShiroiHikari]

Hmm, that's a good point.

[Roy Mustang]

I always enjoyed Superman and Batman. They don't need to do it over.

Right now in the DC comics, there is no more Bruce Wayne. He to believe to be killing in Final Crisis and really he went back in time by Darkseid bream.

Since that time, Dick Grayson took over the role of Batman and Bruce Wayne's son Damian is now Robin.

But Bruce Wayne will be back in 2010 after he finds his way back to our time. So we will have a caveman Batman, pirate Batman, the cowboy, the P.I. Batman from the 50's.

Yeah, its time to reboot both of them is their idea of bring back Bruce Wayne.

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[Bobtheduck]

Comic reboot sounds nice, but not too much different than a new story in this mixed up continuity. Outside of the comic world, there have been like 20 reboots of Superman. This is just the first in his native medium.

Don't beat me up for saying this, but I think that it's... a bit pointless when I hear fans of these DC and Marvel superhero comics argue over the faithfulness of adaptations. You know why? Because the comics themselves can't keep things straight. When it comes down to it, I think the adaptations of some books like LotR or Harry Potter have been more faithful to the source than the comics themselves have been to their origins.

From the Censoring that happened to Batman in year 2 to the variations on origins and the shifting of time periods and the confusion over powers and weaknesses, I'd just prefer to look at each Author or artist or director's take on a comic as their take on a classical myth. This new reboot will be no different. He'll use the basic skeleton, maybe removing a finger or adding some wings, and build the body around it himself. Just like every author since the original has done.

[Nate]

As Phil already said and Bradley expanded upon, the reason they're doing this reboot is for two reasons.

One, it's so that when a story is being done, there aren't any references to say, a storyline that happened in a 1960s comic, that the current audience probably hasn't read and wouldn't be able to easily find a copy of. Heck, even mid-90s comics probably haven't been read and would be hard to find by a current comic reader. Rebooting frees up references to old storylines so that new readers don't have to learn 50+ years of comic history just to understand the current issue.

Second, is that it helps keep favorite characters in the spotlight. Technically, Bruce Wayne has been fighting as Batman since the 1940s. That would make the guy around 90 years old. The reason he's still middle-aged is because of retcons, parallel dimensions, and a lot of weird writing. The fact is it's really hard without getting goofy to explain why this guy has been around since 1939 and he's still the same age. Rebooting the franchise in a modern setting frees that up. He's just started, he doesn't have all that history behind him, and he can last for a while before he starts getting old.

But yeah, I'm disappointed this was the comics too. If any superhero needs a movie reboot it's Superman. At least Batman had the first Batman movie which was awesome. The best Superman can claim is "Well the first movie isn't COMPLETELY terrible" and his movies just go downhill from there (though Superman IV isn't so much the bottom of the hill than the fiery depths of Hades). Superman Returns was an attempt to semi-reboot but it still wasn't good enough. They need to start fresh and just make a good movie like they did with Batman Begins. Okay so Batman Begins wasn't TOO great but it was at least as good as the original Batman I'd say.

[ShiroiHikari]

The first Superman film has a certain charm and I think the first half or so is good. But it gets pretty ridiculous toward the end and the villains in it are a total joke.

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight both did many things right.

[Nate]

Superman WOULD have been a good movie if it wasn't for the awful ending. It doesn't even make sense, if he can fly around the planet so fast that it spins backwards then how was he not able to fly fast enough to stop both bombs? When he's flying around the planet he passes both of them in less than a second.

Also, let's go to our special correspondent Morbo for a report on time being reversed by spinning the planet backwards. Morbo?



"PLANETARY ROTATION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

...thank you Morbo.

Batman Begins and Dark Knight did a lot of things right, enough that they're great movies, but they did a lot of things wrong too. The "realistic" thing really really hurt the awesomeness of Ra's al Ghul, the death of Heath Ledger made Dark Knight's ending horribly unsatisfying, and Rachel Dawes was the worst character ever and having her played by two different people didn't help matters at all.

But I'll leave my ranting on Batman movies for another day, another thread, as this is about the new Superman comics.

[That Dude]

I might check this out, because JMS is a great comic writer...

[Solid Ronin]

The dude that made me care about Thor is writing Superman,

Thank you Jesus.

And on the point of Movie works, while JMS is great, I'd rather see Geoff Johns (The guy writer Batman: Earth One) write another Supes movie. But I'm also afraid of what Hollywood would try to do to his script. Superman works beautifully as a Comic character, but seeing that all comic characters are toned-down for the silver screen, I'd be scared to see "Superman vs. KRYPTONITE!" rather then the more comic-y "Superman vs. A Time traveling wizard that bends the rules of reality to tear the Earth in two by the universal breakdowns such sudden influxes in reality would cause."

[rocklobster]

Let's not forget there have been some good Superman adaptations. Paul Dini and Bruce Timm's treatment is a good example. Although, these were animated.

[Nate]

The Superman cartoon WAS awesome. That's why it's all the more baffling that they can't make a decent live-action version.